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Market => Rumor mill => Topic started by: btcfreedom on July 06, 2011, 05:55 am
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I just found this on SRM.
http://ianxz6zefk72ulzz.onion/index.php/silkroad/item/3959
"Opioids
Feedback for Barry Sneaky (thanks!)
Seller:
BarrySneaky
Price:
฿0.01
Ships from: Internet
Ships to: Anywhere
Description:
This is just for satisfied (or unsatisfied if the case may be) patrons to leave feedback on orders since I am only accepting direct payment. I will send you your money back after you leave feedback, just make a listing and I'll "buy" yours as well.
Good doing business with you."
First off - transactions out of SRM - no.
Secondly - you don't USE the Market for your feedback. feedback is for transactions done VIA THE MARKET>
What the fuck is this????
This is the only thing we have going for us - our honesty - and some asshole has to fucking LIST A SALE FOR FEEDBACK?
As well as offering to "BUY YOUR FEEDBACK" as well? Someone tell me this isn't happening.
The actual listing is not my concern you see. It is the fact that vendors can list, and successfully sell - feedback.
That means in the end, we can't trust anyone.
I contacted SRM admins and advised them this is just plain wrong.
Guard up guys....watch that member number, and check forums.
~btcfreedom~
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good sellers aren't having to do this kind of bullshit, and good buyers support'em and give'em lots of slack when shit goes wrong...fly by night ebay crap won't fly here...
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Word up. Good sellers get good feedback for being GOOD. What's next, 5$ to add someone on facebook? lol
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I think you're misunderstanding him a little bit - the offer to "BUY YOUR FEEDBACK" is so the person giving him feedback (for, as you stated, a non-escrow order) doesn't actually lose the 0.01BTC required to leave the feedback for their purchase from him.
Person buys out of escrow - > purchases 0.01BTC feedback so they can leave feedback regarding the out of escrow purchase - > Barry buys a 0.01BTC item from the buyer so they didn't really have to "pay" 0.01BTC to leave feedback for him.
Not saying it isn't wrong.
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Thanx btcfreedom for pointing this out, I too saw this a few night ago in the middle of a Ketamine emergence and totally forgot about it til just now.
In fact I'm starting a thread to report all vendors working outside of the escrow.
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@Nomad, good idea! 8) Thanks for seeing to this for us !
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I"m still not convinced this guy's not a good seller. Brazen, yeah...but maybe he thought that was 'the way you did it'...gotta remember, we come from all over, and he might come from some totally corrupt system of gov't, where that's how you get good things said about you: you pay people to do it...sort of like getting a publicity agent in the west...ha...ha...
Mostly it's that he also wants to bypass escrow and doesn' t do pgp... PGP is starting to become mandatory for me...not *always* the case, or course, but it's often a sign of a legit seller, is that he's willing to take the time to learn how to use pgp, and provide buyers the xtra bit of security we at least *think* we need. It's a way of showing you will watch out for your buyers, too...
We'll see...this is the time where a good seller would start jumping in on the thread, xplain themselves a bit...often, when we see things thru *their* eyes, it's more understandable... I guess I B 50-50 so far on BSneaky...as I've always said: we're a pretty forgiving bunch, so maybe if we knew *why* he feels compelled to do all the things that make SR...SR, we'ed be more apt to accept at least *some* of his requests...
Mostly, you want to save the escrow lifts for sellers who've shown they'e trustworthy...and all good sellers need to help us by getting their public key out here...
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@phubaiblues Fully agreed. I am starting to stay away from anyone who is not PGP'd. I also understand and respect your viewpoint on the escrow. this is quite the topic....difficult to answer. But first and foremost - everyone needs to encrypt, all the time, every time.
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ugh, the pgp argument again. this is way off topic of this post but I have to comment
it is a useless way of thinking you are more secure than you are. period
if you have a public key, what is to stop any non-legit person from having the public key also? ANYONE can read and write messages using the PUBLIC key posted right?
if anything, I can say I am weary of people who use it to make themselves seem more "legit" than they really
I REFUSE to use pgp, if that loses me a sale, so be it. I NEVER message or conduct business outside of SR so for me there is no need to encrypt anything. I don't keep records and I have no need to do so
anyone who thinks they are being somehow MORE secure using encryption for everything is fooling themselves. you set yourself up to be lazy and complacent thinking you are protected when you are not.
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flame away
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if you have a public key, what is to stop any non-legit person from having the public key also? ANYONE can read and write messages using the PUBLIC key posted right?
You are mixing something here.
If somebody want to write me a message, he must do it with my pgp key, so simply he encrypt text with MY public key and send encrypted message to me.
I, and only I, can decrypt that message (it can only be decrypted with my secret pgp key and passphrase. Pgp keys are key pairs (public and secret).
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ugh, the pgp argument again. this is way off topic of this post but I have to comment
it is a useless way of thinking you are more secure than you are. period
if you have a public key, what is to stop any non-legit person from having the public key also? ANYONE can read and write messages using the PUBLIC key posted right?
if anything, I can say I am weary of people who use it to make themselves seem more "legit" than they really
I REFUSE to use pgp, if that loses me a sale, so be it. I NEVER message or conduct business outside of SR so for me there is no need to encrypt anything. I don't keep records and I have no need to do so
anyone who thinks they are being somehow MORE secure using encryption for everything is fooling themselves. you set yourself up to be lazy and complacent thinking you are protected when you are not.
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flame away
Not a flame, but I recommend that you should not knock it before you try it. 1. it takes some time and effort to learn how to use it. 2. Lets say you encrypt a message with my key. I am the only person that can open and read that encrypted message. Even if my computer was compromised, the person would have to know the passphrase that I used to make the key.
But, you are right, just because someone has a gpg does not automatically make them legit. But, its one less red flag and one more layer of security.
Another example: Lets say Silk road gets compromised (god forbid) and the feds are now in control of the market. If you were to purchase something and use the gpg key, no-one but the vendor that you encrypted it to would be able to decrypt and see your home address.
So, if you get the grasped of the whole thing, it really does make a lot of sense. Plus, its free!
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agreed with chronicpain. don't knock it. it's all we have going right now for our privacy, and is easy to implement.
it's not useless. do your research before making a statement like that. PGP + TOR + making new identities when you transact....
It's the safest way for us. add proxying to russia or bulgaria, then we're talking anonymity.
sorry podperson, but you don't have a valid standing here, there's your flame.
peace.
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if you are having problems learning pgp, just google gpg4win. download and install and use the assistant (GPA its called). now you dont have to learn anything and can still use encryption. if you need help figuring it out, PM me.
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if you are having problems learning pgp, just google gpg4win. download and install and use the assistant (GPA its called). now you dont have to learn anything and can still use encryption. if you need help figuring it out, PM me.
Do you know of any PGP assistants for macs?
I'm having a few problems as I've never used a mac before.
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http://macgpg.sourceforge.net/ 8)
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i think with mac's you have to use the mail system. You really don't to have mail it but thats how you encrypt and decrypt. i could have figured it out but I too was having issues. There are others on the board that are using mac just fine. I bagged using mac os and just have Virtualbox running windows and downloaded the windows version and was up and running in less than an hour...I have the virtualbox up with windows running and then I have my regular mac osx going. Whenever I have to message or give one i just jump into the VB window. Pretty easy..
Kind of nice to have 2 operating systems running at the same time, right next to each other.. I could have used parallels too, i guess. Or even bootcamp.
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chronicpain is correct, Apple Mail in order for the macgpg bundle to work. Yes it is nice to have two operating systems or even four side by side. You can also use VMWare as well as parallels. Bootcamp requires restarting and if you're going to do it, it's much easier done with a separate HD rather than partitioning with the Boot Camp Setup Assistant. I personally use Win7 on a separate HD in my MacPro tower and it's ripper fast, plus you don't have a shared ethernet adapter as with Parallels/VM. You get full hardware support with an ethernet adapter MAC.
~btc~
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Also--back to OP--I think I see now why this seller is selling feedback: he bypasses escrow, and so he has dirtcheap feedback for sale, so buyers can have a way to post feedback, good or bad. If he didn't post it there, you'd have no way of leaving feedback on him, apparently: he says, good or bad, and also, u can see, he's not making money at it, that's for sure...seemed weird at first, but it's actually in line with what I was thinking we needed for trusted sellers: a way to bypass escrow and still leave feedback. Doesn't look so bad in that lite...you can read what he says about it on SR, but it seems reasonable...would be nice, as I've said, if we just had a button to click, where we bypass escrow and can still leave feedback...this is attempt to do that, it seems...